@lexinova Fair pushback but France isn't operating in a vacuum here. The EU has been pushing Chat Control, which is the same surveillance agenda France is using to justify this. So yeah, France is doing the threatening, but the EU is absolutely creating the environment where governments feel empowered to demand backdoors from security projects.

Not misinformation, just pointing out that this isn't just one rogue country, it's part of a broader push that the EU is leading on.

@lexinova France is one of the countries pushing Chat Control. Not all EU countries support it. It's being blocked by the countries opposing it but it doesn't take many switching sides to change that.

fightchatcontrol.eu/

yest but i disagree on their lie that EU is allowing or push the attack against you.

It's french alone that did this

@straybun See discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134… including the linked third party sources from Divested Computing, Mike Kuketz and others.

/e/ and Fairphone have atrocious security. They provide far weak protection against commercial exploit tools than iPhones. It entirely fits with what the French government wants. They either want devices to have poor security where they can break into them very easily or to provide backdoors in the encryption and for remote/physical device access.

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@Emerson61 This libel and harassment has been ongoing since long before recent state attacks.

There's someone there linking harassment content filled with blatant lies while claiming there's no harassment. It's ridiculous and it's time for them to stop.

Look through the links we gave and search for it. archive.is/UrlvK has a clear threat, as do numerous other quotes across media platforms French authorities went to with this. It's clearly not made up no matter the lies.

@notavi10 @Emerson61 Our non-profit was already based in Canada.

OVH is a French company and was the first server provider we chose after losing free credits elsewhere. We've been primarily using OVH as our server hosting company ever since. We eventually started using BuyVM as a secondary provider. We moved the update mirrors to sponsored dedicated servers instead, initially with Macarne and ReliableSite, then a Tempest one. Vultr was introduced for BGP and more locations.

@issotm
> and it looks like it's right-wing leaning journals that are doing this

That's not true. They're doing it because state agencies contacted them. Most of the articles are quotes. Do you consider state-funded news in France to be right wing? There's a massive amount of coverage based on inaccurate claims from state agencies, not the journalists. The journalists are not doing their job by taking that as fact and not giving a chance for us to respond to specifics, sure.

iodéOS and /e/ are extraordinarily insecure and non-private. iodéOS is openly partnered with scammers including Robert Braxman. Both companies (iodé and Murena) have misled people about GrapheneOS for years including misrepresenting it as not for regular people. In doing so, they helped build the narratives now being used by law enforcement to mislead people about GrapheneOS.

discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134… has more info and third party sources on Fairphone, iodéOS and /e/.

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Alright, so... I took the time to do some more searches, read your messages, and read some of that giant thread you've linked to.

> [The journals a]re doing it because state agencies contacted them. Most of the articles are quotes.
I can't speak for the contents of the Parisien or Figaro article, because they're paywalled. I would however like to point out that the Figaro's headline specifically uses the word “misused” (« détourné »), implying that this is *not* the use case y'all have intended for it.

> Do you consider state-funded news in France to be right wing?
Arguably, given our political direction these last few years, I'd say yes lol. But neither of the above two is state-funded, and since I don't have access to the contents I can't say they got the info from state agencies. How'd you know?

> There's a massive amount of coverage
Is there? I could only find three articles: [Le Parisien](leparisien.fr/faits-divers/goo…), [Le Figaro](lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/…), and [francetvinfo](franceinfo.fr/faits-divers/nar…) (more on that one below).

> The journalists are not doing their job by taking that as fact and not giving a chance for us to respond to specifics, sure.
Actually, the francetvinfo article contains two lengthy paragraphs of your response. And... claiming that you're a non-profit is kind of missing the point? Like, yeah, sure, but what happened still happened. I agree with the rest of your stance, but I'm afraid this kind of thing does paint you in a bad light. But what do I know, I'm just a single guy :P

Narcotrafic : les autorités alertent sur l'utilisation d'un système d'exploitation de téléphone pour échapper

Ce dispositif permet d'assurer un haut niveau de confidentialité et de protection contre les intrusions. Selon les renseignements criminels, il intéresse les trafiquants de drogue en quête constante de nouvelles technologies.

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